Deus Ex: Human Revolution (from our Reviewer Forums)

That’s one nice game, I tell you that. Two things a serious dev company like that should have considered, though, are larger and more open levels and more hacking options (separate perks to deal with bots and cameras - fuck is that for?). E.Y.E. has both, and it’s an indie game. You most definitely review E.Y.E., especially because it came out before DX.

The PS3 version did not have audio-sync problems. I prefer PC to consoles, but Eidos confirmed that it was developed primarily for PS3.

Graphically, this game pushes no envelopes, but the atmosphere it creates is so beautiful and immersive that you forget to notice. Not every game has to look like Heavy Rain, after all. I often feel this way about the video game industry; developers are so concerned with advancing the industry that they fail to explore all the possibilities of the technology we already have.

The story, while being really cool already, could have used some developing. For example, none of the bosses you fight really have any importance to the story, nor do they give up details about the story in typical (and appreciated) dying boss style.

The gameplay is simply amazing. The only two things that could have enhanced gameplay are:
1. A melee option. The stealth kills/take-downs are awesome, but I’m talking about a simple punch, pistol-whip or rifle-butt to the face. It would work wonders against enemies who rush you, particularly when dealing with “crazies.” Hand to hand combat would be really cool in the Deus Ex universe, anyway.
2. An autosave feature, which I’m sure the PC version had.

On the whole, I absolutely love this game. I’m on my second playthrough now, my first being stealth and the second being like a cross between Mirror’s Edge and your typical shoot’em up.

The PS3 version did not have audio-sync problems. I prefer PC to consoles, but Eidos confirmed that it was developed primarily for PS3.

Graphically, this game pushes no envelopes, but the atmosphere it creates is so beautiful and immersive that you forget to notice. Not every game has to look like Heavy Rain, after all. I often feel this way about the video game industry; developers are so concerned with advancing the industry that they fail to explore all the possibilities of the technology we already have.

The story, while being really cool already, could have used some developing. For example, none of the bosses you fight really have any importance to the story, nor do they give up details about the story in typical (and appreciated) dying boss style.

The gameplay is simply amazing. The only two things that could have enhanced gameplay are:
1. A melee option. The stealth kills/take-downs are awesome, but I’m talking about a simple punch, pistol-whip or rifle-butt to the face. It would work wonders against enemies who rush you, particularly when dealing with “crazies.” Hand to hand combat would be really cool in the Deus Ex universe, anyway.
2. An autosave feature, which I’m sure the PC version had.

On the whole, I absolutely love this game. I’m on my second playthrough now, my first being stealth and the second being like a cross between Mirror’s Edge and your typical shoot’em up.

Oh my, the melee, how did I forget? How come one spends power on a couple of punches to the face and at the same time effortlessly throws around dumpsters about twice his weight?! That’s bullshit!

Yeah. Thanks for uploading this and congratulations to zeacalvin. In someway, I thought that this may get uploaded. (Or you would say to him “thanks but I want to write my own review”, but I am glad that you didn’t do that but uploaded his review.)

I am also glad that you continued uploading user reviews. (Although I think this will be the last review you want to upload this year and you will not continue it, but I can understand that now, although I would like it if it would be different, but I guess there is no chance for that.) Sorry for my last mail, too.

I didn’t play that game yet, but it sounds interesting.

A Review for Deus Ex 2 was missing? I didn’t see that. Wow.

This also explains why you waited with reviewing Deus Ex 3. I was wondering why there was no review of Deus Ex 3 yet, because it seemed illogical that you didn’t already reviewed it because it was the title most of the community waited for. But now, I understand why it was missing. Thankks for this explaination, too.

Glad my review is on the main page, I can add “wrote a review for CPR” on my resume …

SSJKamui, you have the task to write DX2 review, so you can be on front page too …

Sadly, this won’t work that fast because I don’t have Deus Ex 2.

There are some Cyberpunk Games I haven’t bought/played yet and Deus Ex 2 is one of these.

I will think about what I’ll do. ;)lol

Nevertheless, thanks for the suggestion.;)

I bought it on steam, not so expensive… But if you can’t/don’t want to write DX2 review, I can take care of it … later … :p

i disagree with the rating of 9/10.You should give a 10/10…..

I wish i had more time to play this because it is a most awesome game. Great Reveiw.

A second page for the art works would be nice. Some concepts for the locations were awesome.

@Zecalvin: Well, I don’t know if I will have time for that, soon. It would last some time till I would be able to write reviews about games I have to start anew from the beginning. (With games I played longer, I obviously don’t need as much time as for games which are newly bought.)

@Count-Zero
I agree. This might be a good idea. Also for other game reviews which might come later. (Especially for some games which allmost completely rely on graphical presentation for their experience, this might be very usefull. I don’t know if there are plans to review it but Child of Eden would be one of the candidates for another picture page I could imagine.)

@deusexfan
Well, personally, I think it’s good that zecalvin handled this with caution because I think there is a great danger with a 10/10 rating that reviewers may give this rating because some rather irrational, unobjective factors like hypes.

I also hesitated to give media that rating when I wrote reviews, because of these reasons.

Any review has a part of subjectivity. According to some people on DX thread of CCCF, boss fights kill the gameplay. On the contrary, it didn’t bother me at all and gave me a pleasant change…

Anyway, boss fights must take around 5 minutes each out of 25hrs of gameplay … I don’t think it’s really relevant so I didn’t even mention it in my review … maybe I should have…

Nevermind, no one on this forum ever gave up playing because of this…

Yes, of course, reviews are allways subjective. But extreme ratings often tend to be biased. Because of this, I think it’s better to be carefull when giving a 10/10 or a 0/10 rating.

Since this page is all about cyberpunk and not game critics the rating fits.
This game neither invented the genre, nor adds it something new.
The original DX was a milestone as a game and deserved 10/10.
This one is very close, but still…I don´t know.
I think, SSJKamui is right to be careful. 9/10 is absolute appropriate.

Zecalvin, you forgot to mention, that Eidos Montreal also contacted our CPR community while developing Deus EX: Human Revolution. Some of our members gave some input that (might) have changed some of the development goals. I would like it, if you could add this fact to your review. It is a huge honour for us (members of CPR) that Eidos Montreal replied to CPR in a topic about this game.

Well I really didn’t know. My apologies for that. However, I cannot change what’s written on main page. You should ask Mr Roboto to mention it directly.

I will send him a PM to ask, but I think it would be better if you send one too.

You should also find back the thread if you can.

I didn’t know the contact between the site and Eidos Montreal. Thanks for the info.

Zecalvin can’t add it there. Only Mr. Roboto could add it to this review on the main page.

I loved it. I was just sad I couldn’t merge with the AI and rule the world. I never for a second had a suspension of disbelief that augs were “bad” or could in anyway be “bad”. I know they put alot of time into making the game, and I won’t sit around critiquing anymore.

I missed the baton too, and the satisfying whip sound it made, heh.

@Mr Roboto or whoever edited the review:
Thanks for reacting so fast. Yesterday, I thought there may be a problem, but now, the problem is solved. Thanks.

Thanks for planning to find these threads Stormtrooper mentioned, too.

I guess Mr Robot Updated the post. Zhal found the original thread with Eidos community manager. Link updated in the original forum review and sent to Mr Roboto for main page edit.

here is the link

http://www.cyberpunkreview.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19125#19125

Thanks for the research. Interesting read.

@Mr Roboto
Thanks for updating again. Cool comment on the topic.

Good Review. Good game.

Changing of subject, there will be a syndicate game, FPS. If well done, it could be a new DX3, if bad done, it will be a nameless shooter.

Yes, I heard og the new Syndicate game, too. To be honest, I also see the danger that it becomes a generic FPS.

Im not a big player of computer games, most 1st person games are boring after a bit and RPGs are long and monotinous; but ya’ll rated this so highly and it sounded very in keeping with the cyberpunk genre I gve it a chance. That was last week. I played it until 4am this morning straight. It is awesome. Great plot & gameplay, totaly ingrossing (to the point my friends and family think I fell of the earth, I called in sick to work, and my girlfriend bitching to “get of that damn computer!”)

I agree. Because at first, it sounded like a fairly generic FPS, I wasn’t very much interested in the game, but because of the review, I think the game is interesting.

Wow. This article is one of the most commented Articles of the Site since 2 Years, together with Terminator Salvation and Gamer.

That’s because it’s about a Deus ex. How could a fan of cyberpunk don’t say a word about it?

Deus Ex HR was made very well, in all honesty this the funnest game I have played in along time It brought alot of Shadowrun elements that I thought was great, if anything the only complaint I have at all about this game is that there wasn’t enough content.
I would have loved being able to grind out side quests and missions for days or weeks, whether it be hacking, killing, or knocking someone out and dragging them somwhere, just anything the sky is the limit.. Aside from that maybe a few more skill sets, or special items gained from grinding out side quests as with alot of the rpg’s out there, just stuff you dont have to do, but you do so you can say you finished 100% of the game, other than that this game is just wicked imho

Pity we can’t swimm (but I guess water is the enemy of the augmentation, in Dx1 we had nanotech, not metal, so it makes sense).

Although this game is better than 99% of what is coming out these days,it still doesn’t seem like it deserves a 10,it actually has quite alot of problems they are all just so forgivable because of the overall awesomeness.

@Rott

I also felt like I wanted more content but then remembered how boring fallout 3 was,quality over quantity I say.

@Rott

From your mouth to devs’ ears. BTW, I know an RPG on Shadowrun would be highly appreciated. If they managed to put D&D into computer, Shadowrun’s role-play system will be a piss.

I agree. An RPG with a Shadowrun City Setting would be cool.

Definitely an awesome game but it did have some flaws. The graphics in terms of character models were pretty rudimentary, and there were a few bugs like AI ignoring you if you were against a wall in a few places… and some glitches like shooting through objects that pissed me off. (the stun gun darts wouldn’t go through some objects, if too close to the edge of them so you had to get fully clear and fire perfectly). But nitpicks aside, the gameplay was great and I’ve done 2 full playthroughs after putting it down for a bit.

Michael McMann’s soundtrack really has to get some credit too for creating incredible atmosphere… he’s only done a few Splinter Cell games but it really is a masterpiece and worth picking up if you get the chance. It’s got some Tron, Blade Runner, techno, world beat and choral sounds and I have been listening to it daily since snagging it, good shit.

The only problem I had with this game was the lack of having eviromental objects to interact with , like for instance the Vending machines . Would have defiantely liked to be able to spend some of theose minor credits , also those resturants in the china areas seemed to be wasted without actually be able to buy wants on the menu . And the lack of anything but bars and booze , would been nice for instance if there was soda like in the original

Do you guys think it is better to play Invisible War first, before this one?

Oh, yeah, no doubt at all. Cause after playing HR, you won’t be able to look at IW.

I guess in terms of story it doesn’t really matter since Human Revolution is a prequel from the first Deus Ex. I plan to play them in chronological order.

I’m actually surprised to see such a high rating. Ofc it’s not a bad game but it’s not that polished. For one, boss fights are ridiculous and i could continue with animations and several bugs.

It’s a consolized game like any other but one hell of rpg, i’ll give you that….even though the story is nothing new. What it does is giving rooms to lots of minor characters turning the game into some kind of cyberama, summung up 30 years of cyberpunk. It’s not like you’ll miss the greatest cyberpunk masterpiece ever if you’ re not going to play it. Instead, you may try the first game and play dehr once the price is set at $5 on Steam.

E.Y.E Was complete and utter dogshit.

Like every other indie game. Surprise!

I know that this may sound a bit strange but would anyone consider reviewing Sonic CD as a bit cyberpunk?

I ask because of the time settin: the bad futures in particular look exactly like cyberpunk realms. Stardust Speedway looks like a evil future metropolis. Metallic Madness and Wacky Workbench are both run down industrial zones that operate past their expiration dates. Natural zones like Palmtree Panic and Tidal Tempest have polluted water, what appears to be cybernetic plant life barely alive, rusting and decaying structures and polluted skies.Qaurtz Quadrant in the bad future is definitly a polluted mess.

Even though there is no web, philisophical talks about what it means to be human (or hedgehog), or other related cyberpunk themes there are other things that are present. The evil force taking over is Robotnik, akin to a evil coproration that is polluting the landscape. There are robots, even though they do not try to become “human”. All of the bad futures are dystopias that fit with the scene. Sonic may not be a hacker but he is a lone hero who takes on Robotnik alone. Than there is Metal Sonic, a fully sentient robot version of our hero.

In Sonic 1, look closely at the background and tell me that you DON’T think of Blade Runner!

I’d say that the cyberpunk visuals and themes are on the low to medium side. What do you all think? Up for a review?