American Infrastructure (and the Internet) Threatened By…

This all seems analogous to a certain game I’ve recently played: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deus_ex
….You could literally replace certain character names with their real-life counterparts from these articles, plus scenarios (remember the centralization of the Internet at Area 51?).

Too bad this isn’t a game, it’s people’s lives and the roots of an insidious totalitarianism in our ubiquitous information age, driven by the wealthy elite who feel the need to move faster than anticipated due to the legions of their underling bankers who fubarred their investment stockpiles.

Ok, so the “spies” come from China, Russia and other countries… there is of course absolutly no chances that the “spies” were hiding behind malware-infected zombies coming from these countries, that’s a lot less probable than Russia, China and these other countries to unite in an effort to plant malwares the american electric infrastructure…
The ones who should be worried should be the ones who connected such a critical system to the internet in the first place, not the typical american citizen who see once again his liberties shrinking.

Could all this be a false flag ?

The new thing in malware development isn’t advance packers and kernel table mods, but advanced DNS techniques that obfuscate the control nodes through many layers of abstraction. A simple DLL dropper propagated via a SMTP engine goes a long way this way as current botnets have proven.

Using these DNS techniques you can code shitty clients that are just a DLL or whatever and all that can be done is vendor responses because the people who defend consumers against them can’t remotely modify the clients machine unless they have a software solution running on it with a updates and a license agreement including acknowledgment of it.

I do embedded implementation software engineering in rl. I’m not surprised by this stuff. I see foreign developers get flown in every month, and security clearance is blatantly easy to get in the US as long as you have credentials and a trademark based contract.

Hey I have an idea: let’s plug all our critical infrastructure systems into the internet so we can control it remotely! Better yet, let’s connect all our weapons systems to it, too! OH, and how about connecting our military command structure to the internet, too?

Better yet, I’ll simply invent the gun that will shoot your own foot off for you.

I don’t think it was done through remote software vulnerabilities. I think it was done by poor employment choices.

It’s still dumb to have a nations defense grid and energy control infrastructure on routed WAN where the services can accept public requests though.

What you gotta remember is the government doesn’t pay people who do rootkit research of vulnerability tracking to implement anything. They pay text book IT people to come in and do generic layouts of everything. Most of there innovation is in software algorithms by engineers and mathematicians that have nothing to do with this, and that is usually in DSP->Data Entry&Sorting.

I don’t know though..it is what it is..

Hehe we’re living a cold war, a war of information. I don’t get WHY the government of the US complains about being spied on if THEY ARE SPYING ALL OVER THE WORLD. Oh but yes!, they spy on us with authority that they gave themselves! and honestly, i do not belive that it really matters if the spy network is Chinese, Russian or whatever the country is, they are so paranoid that they will blame a WHOLE NATION only cause one man peeked into some files but as far as i know, there is NO secure network in the world, it works through channels and layers, example: the tv, the radio transmits information via electromagnetic waves sent through the air/space, THAT is the internet, what they call “invented internet” are only devices to access and send information through the real internet, that internet always existed and no one can take over it sooo…. if some one is gonna shut it down, some one smart enough can still attack them

What is really *#$#!#$!$ enfuriating is that these dipsh!ts can’t quite recall why “the Internet” exists. It was a military project to create reliable networks in times of war. Using “the Web” synonymously with “the Internet” simply shows that the people with power have no idea how the world works or what the hell they are talking about.

Yes, of COURSE people are looking at ways of fighting back against a culture and people who have shown a penchant for global domination (Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Panama, Grenada, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, the U.S. has bases in the vast majority of the world and imposes its financial will on others with those bases). The way I see it, the Internet (in the correct usage) was developed as a way of facilitating weapons sysstems and weapons deliver, and…hmm…funny….it actually kinda sorta works. The genie is almost impossible to put back in the bottle ;-), as both the Chinese and Iranians have discovered ;-).

Interesting that when a technology comes along that allows the serfs to communicate and act independently of the mannor lords, the lords get all uppity and start screaming “the SKY is FALLING!”

Who cares about the internet, i still have my old BBS system stand-by, when the internet does not work. We even have 27mc radio digital hamradio systems, when all systems fail.

It is a good idea to keep your old BBS systems locked up, and use them in case of total fail of the internet. Fidonet used BBS in the last century (20th century), so, it doesnt bother me a lot of the internet is destroyed. Actually, maybe, it comes back again, the fun we had, as hackers, phone phreaks, coders, etc. to once again, after a huge war or dystopic shitty thing, that after so many years we log in via our phone modem and type
ATDT ‘phonenumber’
….. LOGIN

Bulletin board systems, independant of the internet.

(yeah sounds strange, but when the internet is shut down, we still have our phone lines, and our ham-radios to communicate digital)