New Cyberpunk Anime - Ergo Proxy

Great writeup and research SFAM, love the screencaps. Yeah, I’ll try to put my thoughts into words when I see the first episode in a little bit, and help out with the hype.

Whoa… I need to see that again. They are definitely not taking the easy route with this show. The first episode is so tight, I missed a lot of the lines by looking at the pretty pictures, and vice-versa. But it definitely looks, sounds and feels pretty interesting.

Awesome! I’m almost hoping Ergo Proxy is somewhat incoherent for the first third, similar to Texhnolyze. Complexity in narrative for cyberpunk stories is a good thing

(And um, yes, the Matrix sequel reviews are imminent )

Yeah, it feels like they’re throwing bits and pieces at us for later reference. Some moments are downright weird - like the creepy scene with statues. Now I understand why they’re releasing a DVD before the end of the season/series: you simply need to pause in some places.:D

As for the fansub: translation is not stellar, but it looks like it’s not off by too much. The video is 1280×720 pixels, and the extra resolution REALLY shows… the sound is downmixed to stereo, but it packs quite a punch - I can imagine what the original 5.1 mix is like. The music is rather unintrusive, and Paranoid Android fits right in as the main theme. More later, in the forum.

A pretty and beautiful anime, something not so common in these days. I’ve seen the first episode in japanese, subbed in english.

Holy crap, this show looks awesome.

This show is the ultimate defenition for sexy in my mind. Dark, punk, goth, beautiful and badass and complex. The character design blows me away and it’s great to have a heroine who’s so offbeat-the the typical-run of the mill girl who struggles to be normal or popular or perfect. I hope the show doesn’t dissapoint because I’m dying to see it and hopefully own it as well. Thanks for the great pictures. I used a couple for a painting I’m working on.

Hi Kaya, so far I’m up to like Episode 10 and love it. I’m guessing you’ll be pretty thrilled too.

Thanks SFAM! Good now I don’t have to be anxious about it being good. Glad you’re enjoying it.

Kaya, just to be clear, in terms of rating it, at this point I see it being either 8, 9 or 10 stars. I cannot imagine it dropping lower than 8 stars, regardless how the rest of the season goes.

I am up to 9, downloading further. I have to say it is an amazing anime. One of the best I have seen in some time, Stupid downloads are too slow… I need more! I have been re-watching every episode though, there is a ton of info that pops up for only a few frames, you really need to be on your toes.

Let’s see, SBS aired Samurai Champloo in 2006, two years after it’s release in the States…

Hmm, I figure 2008 we’ll start seeing this in Australia. If at all :P. I hate living in a fledgling, 74% white, formerly British owned nation in the South Pacific :P. I’m taking the entire country upstream to the mid-Atlantic and parking us somewhere off the coast of Greenland…

Hi, this seems like an awesome show. Is this aired in the us now? I have seen that there exist 4 dvds from this show at www.ergoproxy.com but unfortunately i cannot read japanese so i dont know if they contain subtitles. Do you guys know of a us date or more preferably for me a european release of this on DVD?

Many questions i know

Hi Kenho, right now, unless you live in Japan, right now you’ll either need to download the episodes from a file sharing service or buy a DVD on ebay from someone who has already done that.

I almost never download things unless I simply can’t get them (like La Jetee’) or unless my willpower is too weak to wait (like ergo proxy).

I have no willpoer when it comes to any of this suff.
Erg Proxy has been such a perfect treat for me, outside of GITS.

Thanks for the answers. My willpower and dl skills are quite weak as it seems Tried alot of different filesharing services but no luck to get it downloaded. Just wanna check the first episode and then wait for the dvd’s. I have seen a bit of the first episode on google video but it had so bad quality i just got annoyed.

I love Ergo proxy more than any anime,
Real is my hero

Hi Kenho, I know Emule has a lot of Ergo Proxy fans - have you given that one a try? And yeah, Ami, Real is definitely a terrific character.

did you say “hawt cyber girl” 2 or three times?
eheh
no for reals-
this show has got me in knots since its ladden with various philosophical sub plot stories (greek mythos/alice in wonderland..ect, which is making it uber enjoyable! and I agree with ETM, watching it twice has big bonuses!!

Hey, Wantanabe never directed Witch Hunter Robin, and didnt direct this anime, but he did the storyboard for episode 19.

Heres my source: http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=774

curious…anyone know of a place to direct download this show? i have the first 8, but my college blocks torrents and i’m desperate to find out what happens!

I confess being more than a little obsessed with this series: it’s philosophical, touching, haunting, and gorgeous, although its artistic and technological edge dulled a little after the first episodes. I thought that I had outgrown anime in the last few years, but Ergo Proxy definitely proves that I was mistaken—it’s just that mature shows are rare treats. I really look forward to a complete review here on CR.

For those who are still looking for a nice source for this anime: the Ani-Kraze collective (http://www.anime-kraze.org) provides a BitTorrent package of the first 12 episodes, and two separate torrents for episodes 13 and 14; all high-res, well translated, in Matroska containers. Unfortunately, like almost every fansub group, they seem to struggle with episode 15…

Finished watching it, twice, as its complex plot requires it. What a great, epic, sad and haunting series, but I suppose that diehard cyberpunk fans will be disappointed by the turn it takes, that of one more classical sci-fi tragedy under strong philosophical, psychanalytic and mythological influences. Retrospectively, I’d say it’s more like Neon Genesis Evangelion than GitS. So I put Ergo Proxy in my “top 5 anime ever made” list, but I wonder if it deserves a review here at CR.

(SFAM, have you finished it yet? What do you think?)

long time no see such a good plot in anime, you could say ergo proxy is cyber punk but it also contains a lot more elements than the genre itself reqires . anyway enjoy it , it’ll blow your mind

Hi Meido, I haven’t finished it yet, but this will be on my agenda for this week. I can’t wait for the rest and I’m jealous that you have finished it.

If anyone’s looking for direct downloads of Ergo Proxy, try this:
http://www.muffindomain.com/index.php?page=anime.html

Her name isn’t Lil, it’s Real. Her actual name is RE-L. And that guy’s last name is Rowe…it’s Law. And it’s Autorave, not Autoreiv…

isn’t Rowe*

Got some of it downloaded now and watched a couple of episodes! Great series!!
Actually i wanted to know if anyone bought the US release of the DVD yet? It should be out in stores now..

I finished watching it, and I need to see it again. Anyhow I’m going to post a discusion thread on the forum.

I’ve watched up to about episode ten or so with my girlfriend.
It strikes me as quite cool, but the lack of backdrops gets to me, and I think the whole “turning into super human monster thing” scheme is getting a little old. But Ergo Proxy definitly seems to keep its cool!

I saw one of the ergo proxy DVDs it was in english 5.1 DTS, but where it was only a DVD it would only be in 480p

Yes, one of the top 5 or 10 anime ever made. The whole series is available on DVDs from various sites in Asia (but no hot links here). The ending is just about perfect.

cette anime est grandiose jadore ^^^

bonne continuation a toute

Oh yeah, the show isn’t “CSI” at all. The first episode introduces Real as having a job as an investigator in the Security Bureau, but that’s pretty much as far as it goes with any comparisons to CSI. The rest of the episodes explore Real’s humanity and purpose and that of the other characters in the series.

The series examines Baroque-era philosophy (Descartes, Rosseau, etc) and subjects like the continuity paradox. Likewise, the fashions worn by the characters reflect the series’ nature.

I finished watching Ergo Proxy and i liked it very much.
While in the beginning i felt it had a cyberpunk feel i thought it progressed to another type of layer, leaving cp behind and moving towards other genres.
The ending was wow.
While being pointed in other communities i didn´t see it here, so here it goes a little bit of trivia to all, the amazing resemblance between Real and Evanescence´s singer Amy Lee, pictures comparing one another being easily found on the interwub.

Hi Merigui, you’re right, they do look alike!

me encanta esta serie es lo mejor q e visto…ya q es lo mejor

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MIXO TE AMO

ERGO PROXY…es un simple nombre q esconde tantos misterios tras una mente clara y enamorada…es lo mejor la recomiendo a atodos akerllos q realmente le gusta el anime de calidad…

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MIXO TE AMO MAS Q LA CRESTA…TU BEBE

Ey a prota se parece mucho a Amy Lee la cantan de Evanescence no creen?

I started watching this due to reading up on it here, and I gotta say, so far it’s been really enjoyable. I’m pretty picky about my anime choices, but this stuff is right up my alley, and its been a while since an anime series has been so much fun to watch.

this is on my amazon recommends… along w/true grit and fullmetal alchemist… lol

may have to give it a look. art style looks nice.

this series was amazing
two thumbs way up, i most definitely recommend the series to anyone
i don’t think there will be another season though

First of all, i need to thank you SFAM for this cyberpunk project!

My wallet is crying in a dark corner after I grabbed all its money, and my emule is overloading ^^

so much information for the CP fan…

Ergo proxy is awesome and towards the end it gets weirder and weirder. I thinks its episode 14 “anamnesis” the most hypnotic anime episode ever

And as a Spanish citizen myself… its depressing all the Spanish comments you receive without the minimum effort to speak in your language, the language of the host… while comments from all around the world are translated

try a little bit harder!

well thx for all SFAM

i luv ergo proxy!!!!!!!!! lol

this is so cool i like the drawings of this anime

i hope i can see it

For UK fans like me with no DVD release for a while, you can watch (but not download) the whole series on tv links. I finished watching it a while ago and it blew me away. There are a couple of episodes later in the series that are really, really weird (the quiz show episode, the theme park episode and the bookshop episode). Luckily they are still a joy to watch because they add background info and also because of the sheer quality of the animation. The characters are uncliched and complex. I found myself really rooting for Vincent as the series progressed. Does anyone if the people behind this series have made anything else? On the subject of another series - unfortunately unlikely. I doubt they’d want to reopen the story after such a great ending.

this anime is best of cyberpunk

HOLA..AGUANTE EL ANIME Y ERGO PROXY ( SE ENTIENDE LA COMPARACION) DE UNA Q SI CHAU MAN TODO BIEN SOY DE ARGENTINA..BYE.

I absolutely love this show!
I haven’t missed an episode and I never will.
It’s my favourite Anime at the moment.
I love Pino! =D I used to have a toy that looked like her lol she’s gorgeous!

Sez xoxox

Interesting explanation of the series and the ending:

http://anikimeiski.blogspot.com/2006/08/will-pino-survive-ergo-proxy-ep23.html

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Shinichirô Watanabe directed Cowboy Bebop ‘n Samurai Champloo… whom Shuko Murase was a storyboard artist on Cowboy Bebop ‘n a key animator on Samurai Champloo… Watanabe has nothin’ to do with either WHR or Ergo Proxy… other than bein’ a branch of Murase’s work-tree. These two are Murase’s dealy.
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I am Gothic Kyo
I from in Argentina
I love to the beautyful Lil Meyer
I think what this serie is the best xD

bye

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Hola Me llamo Gothic Kyo
Soy de Argentina y creo q Ergo Proxy es la mejor
serie que he visto xD..
Lil Meyer te Amo &#9829 xD

bye..

This is definitely my favorite anime series, followed by NGE.

I just received my shipment of DVD’s yesterday..time for an EP bonanza. :x3

Damn I SUUUUUPEr Excited!
Shit man!

yeah..I finished watching the whole series in 2 days, lol and the weirdest episode ever was the gameshow one I wont say what its about because it would be a spoiler but…what the hell man? I mean it explained so many things and yet leaves you to wonder…WHAT THE HELL MAN? I saw it and I thought maybe I missed an episode that would explain how this came about but no..no its just plain strange.

I agree, a beautiful, complex anime! I’m pretty new to anime so I kept the Wiki up so I could read about the mythologies and their use and reference to Japanese culture and the first episode in particular found myself hitting the pause button to look on the Wiki to catch up. I absolutely love the challenge! So far, just on Episode 6. It’s definatley one to go slow and savour…
“Life is easier when you lighten your load”.

A friend of mine gave me a loan of the serie after convincing him of buying it =P

Quite good, taking in consideration that the copy was a doubtful boxset from Malaysia with crap subtitles.

I love the way you see normal day-by-day situations mixed with complicated/philosofical themes.

Pino is my hero LOL

this is like the best anime ever!The BEST!Ifound it hard when i realized that i would hardly find something near to this, and that any anime i would watch afterwars would be shaded by Ergo Proxy.Sad…

Ive bee a fan of animation since childhood and have made a career out of it as an animator, being trained in the classical western sense and style “Disney” and having a dislike for the big cute eye style seen in also a lot of west and east schools of thought is a natural by product of this. I found Ergo proxy to be both beautifully understated and wonderfully scripted with characters who bring out emotional responses prominent in all good stories with out using horror and gore like a hammer but rather like a artist surgeon uses Horror to scare you off smoking (I know this is not the first anime to do this) It is just beautifully done in script design characterization plot and humor I love it and would put it at the top of my list with Last Exile, Akira , Hellsing, Hunter D.

Did mention how much I love Ergo Proxy enough times

Hey,

Do the characters in Ergo Proxy speak in Japanese or English?

My email is: c_wrightsman@yahoomail.com

I really enjoyed this series, the animation was mind blowing, the plot involved and interesting, not to mention fantastic character design. I was a little disappointed with the turn the show decided to take at the end, and found myself most involved by the first 3 episodes. And the episode with the game show? Where did that come from? It really caught me off guard and seemed unnecessary. But for the most part definitely one of the best animes in awhile.

OK, I am curious enough about this to look for it on Amazon and maybe you tube. Come to think of it I need to put Rennaisance on there as well.

This is one of the best shows out there. My favorite…

Thanks again for another point in the right direction.

I watched loads of new (to me) sci-fi because of this site.

Cheers!!!

This anime it’s one of the best I had seen together with Lain

Just out of curiosity is this out on DVD yet? Has it been posted to you tube? I have netflix so I can rent easily enough.

If you haven’t found it yet you can watch it on (can I post a link?) www.animefreak.tv

Louie Louie, you can post a link, but do not forget, if it is an illegal link, this complete website can be in danger. So, please, post legal links, not illegals.

ERGO PROXY is one hell of a great series, and definitely not for those who want everything spoon-fed to them (and the opening theme by Monoral is one of the best I’ve heard).

It is out on DVD–a box set, actually–thanks to Funimation, who released it due to Geneon’s implosion (thanks, pirates…no-good #*@*ers…), and it’s been posted to sites to download.

I understand the complaints, but for some to say that it’s “pretentious” goes too far. Look, for years all we’ve heard are complaints about how, when it comes to animaion and live action films/TV shows, there’s nothing out there that’s good, that takes chances, that actually raises the bar. And yet, here is an animated series that does just that. No cute, foul-mouthed kids, no saccharine nonsense–and yet, that’s STILL not enough. The gripes continue.

Bottom line–watch this series. It’s as good as some of the best live-action SF out there, and I’m including films like THE MATRIX and TV shows such as Ron Moore’s revamp of BATTLESTAR GALACTICA.

Plus, Re-al is hot.

I bought this just based off of the cover art.
Call it a risk.
But the art promises the epic-ness of the show.
It’s absolutely beautiful.

Hmm, it doesn’t flow as the sort of storytelling I like does. I get the sense the writers were infected with ideas of open-ended storytelling and they got tangled up with the drifting nature of the vaguely coherent story and lost me.

Hmm. I get the feeling in the post Ergo production meeting they’ve sumarised as follows: ‘We’ve pushed to see just how far we can take scattered story-telling with no incluing at all…

Ergo fails in the same way that Paprika did- you just don’t know ‘What is what’ and couldn’t be stuffed trying to figure it out.

Yeah, okay I didn’t watch to the end (even though it was a visually stunning work) because the drift was too fierce for me… I got the feeling the writers wanted to convey a mess of dreams rather than a story.

Hmm, Scrapped Princesss managed to pull off a reveal in the third quarter of the series that changed it to a harder edged sci-fi that worked but every episode of ergo that I’ve watched just lost me in never ending drift.
Peter Chung’s Aeon Flux deliberately left plot lines open ended –so you could interpret as you will– but ergo proxy just failed in its attempt to ‘harness the vague’ as it didn’t provide plot hooks to keep me coming back.

EPIC FAIL

Ergo Proxy is actually awesome, i recommend it as a must watch anime, your review was very good too.

the last 5 seconds with ergo’s words with the background scene…was enough for me to say the 23 episodes was a good ride!

the landscape kinda reminded me of some scenes from the korean anime wonderful days (sky blue) but ergo’s story was much deeper.

its kinda like lain, where a second time watch would help understand it better… in fact the very first scene makes much much more sense the second time, and realize that a lot of details have been placed in the series that cannot be seen with just one watch.

the themes touch a variety of classic philoposhical themes including concept of self, alter ego, concious vs unconcious, ethics etc…

i like the metaphore for the word “god” used in many ways throughout the anime… the last scene just gave me chills of joy

Underrated gem.

I watched the whole thing back-to-back. I couldn’t put it down. The truth is that whilst I love cyberpunk, I hate anime. I’m sorry, it just isn’t for me… yet anime constututes so much of the cyberpunk material out there - I have to watch it anyway.

But Ergo Proxy has changed my mind about anime. It didn’t fall into the traps that have irritated me with other anime. The art design, the plot, the voice acting - it was all utterly immaculate. I loved how they actually made you think about the storyline, it doesn’t hand everything to you on a platter but it explains enough that you don’t come out at the end thinking “WTF did I just watch”.

I know I am probably going to be burned as a heretic for saying this, but this was the best anime I have ever seen (and despite my dislike, I have seen a fair number). In my opinion this beats GitS, Appleseed, Aeonflux etc hands-down. Certainly those anime are more important as far as influence on cyberpunk goes - and I respect your opinions if you have another favourite. For me though, Ergo is simply the best.

Oh, and Re-L is a babe.